PiTool Still Breaking WiFi

Just a quick reminder - I had the lag spikes present with both the onboard wifi on my Asus Maximus X Code motherboard (2x2 802.11ac Wi-Fi), so it’s not just USB or PCI. This was persistent regardless of whether I was using a netgear orbi router or the virgin home hub 3.0. I ended up having to run ethernet across the entire house & sent the orbi’s back.

The issue went away immediately upon closing pitool.

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Your onboard Wifi is most likely pcix. Mine is a m2 card on my onboard mobos.

Windows 10 2004
Netgear A6210
Jensen al25150
On 5ghz network
Pitool
8kX

I have this problem too and its very easy to see on my bitminer. When pitool is on i get lots of rejects due to timeouts and Pitool off. No issues. To put that in perspective. Pitool on Accepted: 1000 Rejected 300 Pitool off: Accepted 1000 Rejected 8.

Same in games, i get 5-10 second dropouts on discord comms and i could never figure out why but i always game in VR and pitool has been open.

I havent tested it much so i dont know if its the HMD itself causing it or the actual Pitool

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You can run a trace on your wifi interface on your PC and check if there is any (heavy) traffic generated by PiTool. You can also run a trace on your router/AP to check if the problem comes from the saturated bandwidth or some other problem.

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any specific trace program you can recommend ?

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I would try Wireshark on PC. For the router it would depend on the OS and if you have an access to it.

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Aight thanks. Ive poked Wireshark a bit already but its a bit daunting so i have to figure out which is which on it since it cant track a specific app

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For a first shot, you can use “resource manager” in Windows (get to it through task manager). There you can filter TCP/IP connections by process to figure out the destination IP. Or by using process monitor from SysInternals. Then you can set an IP filter in Wireshark to see only particular traffic.

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There’s no Pitool or service that use the net as i can see so im assuming its the HMD interfering somehow then

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It could also be that piservice (or some other Pimax software component) stalls the network/pci/usb stack which your wifi hardware uses.

I have seen the USB devices being blocked or responding with big delay during the headset initialization. This is definitely a problem with Pimax software, but it usually happens only when the headset has some problem itself.

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I think that’s most likely it, but of course not as exciting as other “exotic” explanations… :+1::rofl:

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Most likely the Pimax software is locking some OS critical resource (which/when it shouldn’t) and locks or stalls the other peripherals. Normally this should be easy to diagnose for the developer.

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Exactly. It’s probably related to the issues related to “USB congestion issues” too… :wink:

In that case it’s just RGB software causing/triggering it.

Indeed, motherboard RGB software, and fan control, is well known to commonly cause such problems.

Which is a good reason for using dedicated controllers for such things instead.

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