Was it not Pimax employees at the EU roadshow saying most likely not until after Chinese New Year?
Hardly speculation if the company itself doesnt even expect it any time soon.
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Competitor no. Not that I have seen. However during the pimax original KS iirc there was a cinema hmd that did offer 2 different interchangeable lenses that one set reduced the FoV for better cinema experience. Maybe @VRGIMP27 might recall it as iirc it correctly he had posted it when he suggested interchangeable swappable lenses.
Might not be that long of way to go. Just need to be patient. Imagine it is possible they might start shipping just before the end of this year as the Roadshows are giving them valuable feedback that they are likely working on things reported good & Bad to try to ensure a very positive relaunch.
It is better to do a Roadshow to expose possible pitfalls that a company might not catch due to company bias might not catch.
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So then the Crystal has been shipping in it’s state? Are you also stating impressions are not accurate that ppl have posted?
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Please stop embellishing numbers. It would not be good to go promote ppl’s long history of biased perceptions.
I will stop at saying most know how often in the past you have attacked ppl reporting issues. Including The DMAS release where it became known pimax was aware of the 1.2k noise that affects some of the Older 8kX units. Imagine alot of folks also saw the AU adapter issue.
Let’s keep things clean please.
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Very correct. I recall HTC was not sure if they were going to be able to resolve the Audio issues on the Vive Pro.
Plus we can also look to the. currently released pimax hmds where the Wireless module was cancelled due to unforeseen issues to make it work at an acceptable level.
Everybody brought up that other hmd when I floated the idea, for exchangeable lenses but that was a theater on your face, like an hmz T1 not a VR device. The DK1 had different lenses for different diopers, but nobody had thought of getting a pixels per degree bump as part of the lenses and having different Distortion profiles/FOV tailored to each set.
Remember? I had suggested it as a stretch goal for Kickstarter for several reasons including the issues people were having with the lenses, and then they implemented the fov option in software with the refresh rate option also, but stopped short of exchangeable lenses. Now with the crystal they will have everything I initially suggested, lenses specialized for variable fov for different pixels per degree and variable refresh rate.
Honestly the crystal is everything the pimax 4K and the initial pimax 8K wish they had been.
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Iirc correctly that Cinema headset compressed 2 Qhd panels into a FoV of 90 and 60?
But yeah not a competitor as I recall they added an arm to support the headset as it was very heavy.
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From reading reviews of the Pimax Crystal prototype from the US roadshow that optimised the lenses/lens positioning used in the Euro roadshows, Pimax Crystal has equal to superior clarity to Varjo Aero even with the lower clarity 35 PPD lenses. NB: The 42 PPD haven’t been demonstrated as far as I’m aware. It is logical that when used, they will surpass the Varjo Aero clarity even further.
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Crystal has much better black levels due to local dimming.
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Crystal has a far better audio solution as it’s entirely absent on Varjo Aero.
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Crystal has standalone mode.
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Crystal has wireless support.
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Crystal is cheaper. (edit).
Ergo the only thing missing to not have total victory over the ridiculously over priced (and now ‘old’) Varjo Aero is a lack of adjustable diopter which may well scare off prescription glasses wearers such as myself. This apparent design oversight is presumably salvageable, however, due to the fact it has drop in removable (magnetic) lenses. Custom lenses could potentially therefore be used.
All technology ages quickly so potentially within 18-24 months, Pimax Crystal could be beaten by something as it lacks super wide FOV - a key vulnerability against future competitors, however the 12K OLED flagship, I would presume, is Pimax’s saviour to prevent being trumped early.
A question is, can Pimax Crystal be beaten at a lower price? So far, no manufacturer has beaten the 8K-X on specification, never mind price, which has been available since 2020.
If this continues, if you buy a Pimax Crystal, you’d probably be good for a few years which is an acceptable time frame in the world of computer technology and VR headsets.
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Agreed. All taken on board except your quoting “specs” of a future HMD with somthing that’s readily available. 42ppd lenses, standalone, eye tracking, wireless functionality and lighthouse are yet to be demonstrated. Lets just hope this can all be achieved before somthing else drops
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42PPD lenses have been shown off but everything else you mentioned is completely accurate (iirc the 42ppd also didn’t have the distortion profile applied).
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One point of interest is the Crystal is also a complete VR setup including Controllers which is a seperate 3rdparty purchase. If your Farsighted you maybe be able with the Crystal use spacers to adjust the focus. @LukeB years ago effectively reversed the p4k’s myopic to normal vision support by dismantling his hmd and used iirc 1mm to 1.5mm washers to correct the focus.
But agreed with what has been demoed so far is fairly positive and exciting. The same is true that many so far that have Tried the Portal are starting to see it’s potential much clearer.
Dave was more talking about unknown elements like Standalone, Wireless and the steamvr tracking plate. Which is true at this time these are unknown how well they will work in future. Which is a fair assessment when you consider things like the Wireless module for our current hmds.
Fwiw, the aero doesn’t have diopter adjustment either so it’s even on that front. I’m not sure how much of a hassle it is to add diopter to aspheric lenses (so far I’ve only heard of it being applied to pancake lenses). As long as the diopter is 20/20 on the Crystal then that’s good enough as you can use glasses or get perscription lesnes. Diopter adjustment is ideal but not sure if it’s feasible (or even possible) with aspheric lenses. Why Pico 4 and Quest Pro skipped it with their pancake lesnes is a headscratcher to me. Maybe cost and quality is affected?
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Hey @SmallBaguette did you go back to test the xtal? Wondering if they helped you out with the config this time
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No luck unfortunately, it was too busy any of the times I was able to swing by. I’ll take your word for it though, it’s a pity I couldn’t see it in its full glory but I’ll put it down to just bad luck/setup.
Also, how is yours tracked? The one there just had a tundra tracker on top.
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Yeah they emailed me if I wanted to wait for inside out tracking or lighthouse via a Tundra unit. Didn’t want to wait so for the tundra version. Works well.
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In the case of Crystal, it’s quite easy. Just add some spacer before the lens and you are done in 10 seconds.
The prescription lenses will only distort the vision further, making the peripheral blurry, and it will be a bad experience.
When adding a slim spacer before the lens, the vision will be slightly distorted, but the picture quality remains the same. The benefit is that you will be able to see the whole glory with your naked eyes, and you don’t need to suffer the pain of wearing the glass frame in a tight headset.
The slight distortion caused by a spacer can be adjusted by firmware or software in the future. I am sure it will be just piece of cake for Pimax.
The issue, before the space, was that the zoom was too much (like 0.5 per eye). So adding the spacer brought it to 0 as it should be. Adding more space would just zoom out and go in the opposite direction of what a diopter adjustment should do.
I’m not sure how far you could go the other direction (as in closer to get a higher perscption/zoom) but I suspect it would be very limited and quickly would result in severe distortions etc.
Afaik, there has been no headset with diopter adjustment that hasn’t been pancake lenses and I’m guessing that’s for a good practical reason. If it really was that easy then someone, if not pimax, would have done it already.
This has never been the experience for anyone afaik, on any headset. I use glasses and prescription lenses on multiple headsets (a lot of headsets) and haven’t seen any issue. Nor have I ever once heard anyone say this.
Well, Sebastian from MRTV once reviewed the HP Reverb G2 and said it’s almost impossible to fit his eyeglasses inside. I didn’t listen and ordered one. The result is quite miserable: the frame is so tight that my ear hurts. Then the G2 just malfunctioned after one day of use… Old story.
Fast forward to the Quest 2 I currently own. It’s a great headset. Picture is good, but I have to wear the glasses with it, and it does give me some uncomfort and distortion. The center is crystal clear, but the edge is not. Maybe it’s not due to Quest 2 but my eyeglasses. Still you can see why it’s not ideal to have glasses inside a headset.
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