For the crazy of the steering wheel 5k + vs 8k?

Hello all

I am mainly player of simracing what will be for you the best choice 5k + vs 8k ??? :fearful:

8k backer

I’m interested too, I only use iracing.
I’m an 8k backer, I have a lot of doubts after seeing the Sweviver review.
But at this point another question i have: why develop two devices instead of focusing only one with better spec ? ( imho )

Racing means looking far ahead and then the 8K has better potential. You will need a good GPU for the super-sampling but racing games work well with the 8K and 5K+ FOV’s.

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thank you Pimel , good point :wink:

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I agree with your point of view
Equality FoV
But quality and framerate?
These games demand power to be pleasant in any situation

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what about the refresh rate, 80 vs 90. could be a problem?

90 will be better it’s certain but not very noticeable I think

But in quality of image and depth of field if you boost the 8k in SS???

The 5 k + bit you do it as much :neutral_face:

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The 5k was a community suggestion/request.

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I think that’s going to be impossible to answer… on another forum topic, SweViver posted a picture of a car sim comparison of the 5k+ and 8k where he states that the 8K is better because you get more detail. I questioned that because I see something different… then SweViver posted another picture in that thread again saying the picture shows more detail from the 8K… but again, I don’t see that at all. My point is… I don’t think everyone is going to agree which is the better choice for sims.

Here’s the post … I recommend you check it out… http://community.openmr.ai/t/pimax-8k-requires-1-75-ss-to-match-5k-sharpness-in-ed-at-least/8310/72

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It doesn’t sound like you wanted to link to my post. It seems like you probably meant to link to this:
http://community.openmr.ai/t/pimax-8k-requires-1-75-ss-to-match-5k-sharpness-in-ed-at-least/8310/73

Basically, you can see more “details” because you have more pixels but the image isn’t as clear/accurate. This is because the upscaler is generating pixels to make up for the difference between the input signal (1440p) and the panel resolution (4K). This results in an image that is smoother than the input signal but isn’t necessarily accurate (ie clarity).

An exaggerated example.

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But that’s my point… in that post… I was specifically talking about the pictures SweViver posted and claimed that the 8K showed more detail. But again, I studied both pictures and to me… I see more detail on the 5K+… and yes, more clarity. Particularly the second picture :

I see more detail on the 5K+… we can discuss the technology, but going with just my eyes… when I look at those brake lights, and side mirror… I see more detail… but maybe that’s just me and my eyes. This reminds me of that TWITTER debate about “Yanny or Laurel”… Half the people heard Yanny, while the other half hears Laurel: https://twitter.com/cloecouture/status/996218489831473152?lang=en

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Indeed & your brain will try to fill in the blanks with the increase in pixels to identify what it sees.

Indeed grainy in the first photo but smoother. 2nd photo clearer but lined.

What SweViver is referring to is the greater definition that the 8K image shows for the shape of the car. Look at how much rounder and smoother the cars edges look in the 8K image vs the more clear but jagged look of the 5K image. “Detail” is not the right word for what he is trying to describe.

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While this type of font has more clarity, it is also missing fine detail. And your brain fills in the gaps so it looks as if detail is there where it isn’t

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yeah Well summary

raa not simple why pimax why !!!

In the end I think it is better to take the 2 headset :grin:

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The easiest way will be to test the 2 headset

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That is what i think, too. I really like the second picture much more. But may be a matter of taste. I hate blur. Also lines hehehe! But, yeah, second picture wins by all means if i had to choose. I remember back in the days with cable or antenna tv’s when you were manually turning the knobs to find a signal? I preferred pixel-y and more contrast over blurry. Although i hated the pixels too, lol :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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That’s the conclusion I came too… but the two choices for me… 5K+ now and possibly the 8K-X in a couple of years when the RTX-3080 comes out.

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[quote=“tomohm, post:11, topic:8329”]…I was specifically talking about the pictures SweViver posted and claimed that the 8K showed more detail. But again, I studied both pictures and to me… I see more detail on the 5K+… and yes, more clarity. Particularly the second picture :

I see more detail on the 5K+… we can discuss the technology, but going with just my eyes… when I look at those brake lights, and side mirror… I see more detail…[/quote]
I wouldn’t get hung up about the brake lights. I think that the pictures were NOT taken under identical frames of the animation. The highlight is almost certainly visible on the 8K under the right situation.

Here’s what I think @SweViver is trying to explain: Your eyes will notice different details in a zoomed-in image. Look at the image when it’s smaller, which is how you would see it in-game…

Notice the smoother gradations on the car’s yellow paint on the left (8K). Also, the helmet looks more rounded on the 8K and the mirror looks slightly rotated. On the 5K+, it looks like the bottom of the mirror was chopped flat.

Honestly, I think it’s really a matter of preference. I certainly understand why the “crisp” look of the 5K+ is appealing to a lot of people, but (at this moment) I’m leaning towards getting the 8K, because I hate aliased jaggies, so it’s softer look is a “plus” for me.

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