Hi. I really appreciate the effort you put into making these examples. But I notice that the 8k is more blurry than the 5k+. Blurriness is normal considering that we’re upscalling and it acts as a form of AA. But… in this case I also notice detail loss on the 8k which should not be the case. Could you please confirm if you actually could notice any detail loss on the 8k over the 5k+? Thank you.
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Do you think the example images are not truely reflecting the percieved image quality inside the HMDs?
The applied blur filter on the 5K+ images are of a less intensity then the 8K images. On the other hand I applied the SDE effect filter more on 5K+ then 8K.
Well for me the image did not only look more clear on the 5K+ but also the image was brighter somehow…I m really leaning to the 5K+…now where it is confiremd that the 8K scaler cannot be manipulated/by passed to archieve higher resolution input.
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I really love that you did these images. I can’t take them as representative , but I love that you did them.
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Thanks for the info…I will do some research to see of hand tracking will be viable for me presently. If not then I’ll put it towards a wireless adapter🖒
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You’re welcome. 
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Which Pimax ? 8K or 5L+ ? In my opinion if 5K+ is way better than Go in terms of SDE, it is very good. If 8K blurriness can be addressed it would be even better.
DaHillersen – Could you discuss image quality more? I’m having a hard time understanding these differences? For example, you say that you can focus on distant scenery better on the 8k, yet the 8k is blurrier? I have a hard time reconciling this.
For example, with my low resolution Rift, distant objects become hard to see, BECAUSE they become blurrier, / unfocused. So I consider these 2 issues to exist together, or part of the same issue?
For, example, I group - high resolution - sharp - and detail together,
And I also group - low resolution - blur - and low detail together.
But I see some reviewers say one has better sharpness, and the other has better distance viewing?
Another question -
I understand that the 5K plus has a smaller panel offering higher PPI, and therefore higher resolution than the 8k.
I also now understand that the 8K scaler only reduces SDE, and has no effect on perceived resolution.
All that being true, how is it possible for the 8k can have better distance viewing than the 5K +?
Technically, 8k’s only advantage should be less SDE, and perhaps better AA due to scaling?
Just trying to understand…
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Did you see it in Berlin?
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He said “if” but left off the follow-up “then” in his statement. He meant If the 5K is way better than Go in terms of SDE, “THEN” it is very good…
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Ok, I didn’t notice the ‘if’ alone, thanks!
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The 5k+ has a higher ppi than the base 5k due to a smaller panel. The 8k has a higher ppi than both.
Because the 8k will allow you to potenially see farther due to having more pixels. But the upscaling softens the image.
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But that’s not what I’ve read. The 8K has more pixels, but the scaling process in no way adds detail. In effect, it may have more pixels, but they are not usable as additional true resolution, only for SDE reduction. That would give the 5K the resolution advantage adding %10 more panel usage, and therefor more native pixels ?
@Wmacky
In one of Sweiver’s backer impression video someone said that reading text was easier at distance using the 8K. The AA effect on 8K makes it easier for the brain to see text more clearly that way…allthough the difference was minimal.
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Yep as @DaHillersen said. The 8k has less black between pixels due to pixel density.
Consider looking at an object at distance through a screendoor. Study the far off object. Then remove the screen. The object becomes easier to see with the screen removed.
Why there are differences of opinion on the 5k+ vs the 8k is both technical & subjective. Indivduals had different visual strengths & preferences.
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If these images were correct and could not be improved, the 5k+ would be the choice for everyone. And there also shouldn’t be 2 models to confuse peeps.
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I backed the 8K because i want less SDE + wide fov and that is what the 8K will give me, less SDE than any other user HMD available (minus the 4k maybe).
At the moment the only reason that would make me switch to 5k+ is that at the 16th it turns out there may be major performance issues with my 1080ti or there is another major problem we don’t know of yet.
If i wouldn’t care about SDE i would have backed the 5K in the first place, the 5k+ may have closed in on the 8K but has not closed the gap.
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Fantastic review but could you by any chance make a comparison image of what the vive or oculus look like now so we can get an idea of the difference. I’m sure these Pimax headsets are significantly better (because everyone who has tried one says so) but I’m struggling to get get a feel for how much better.
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No. I just have the Oculus GO, which is better then Rift/VIVE in terms of SDE, Godrays, sweet spot.
there was a guy in berlin, i think @TheSwanCollective who was comparing one of the headsets to oculus go, but not sure.
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Well I was testing the Go on my local electronics mart recently and the SDE was way worse on the Go (then 5K+ or 8K) imo.
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