Any update after 3 days @twack3r ? Still super happy with it?
I’m also wondering how ALVR now works, Bradley says it’s getting really good
Thrill has his review finally ready: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REo1ugX5GSI
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Heaney’s review Apple Vision Pro Review: A Heavy Portable Cinema & Monitor
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Hmmm it seems mrtv is not so happy https://twitter.com/mixedrealityTV/status/1758691247445664057
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Yes, still super happy.
It makes no sense for me to compare it to an XR-4 or any of the AIO HMDs because it’s such a different product.
I have been inside of it in excess of 6h every day since Monday and a large part of that was simply work. Teams, Outlook, Excel, PowerPoint, Kanban Boards etc. It’s a multitasking behemoth.
Entertainment wise Apple TV+ and Disney+ have shown me that native 3D movies are insanely good, as is just relaxed Prime watching.
Games are close to non existent but the Lego Builders app is a beautiful MR game for what it is.
Biggest downside is the front heavy design but with the dual loop mod that is a solved issue. I am currently working on combining a BoboVR halo strap design with the single loop band as using the AVP as a floater without the light seal (read: facial interface) is extremely comfortable. On that note: when you check out the AVP, really do take a close look at the material design of the solo loop - it’s sci-fi level product design.
I cannot stress enough how much of a leap ahead this product is for the entire XR industry.
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Genuine question. How do you power the AVP for 6 hours when running the battery? Do you have the battery constantly on charge or can you bypass the battery altogether?
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First off, the battery runs fine for an excess of 3h.
Additionally, I can attach my iPhone Pro Max which doesn’t actively charge but significantly adds to the battery capacity, 1h+.
And yes, I bought a 6m USB C cable and when watching movies or in long conference calls, I plug the battery into the wall.
It’s effectively exactly the same as using a laptop and looking at the abysmal battery performance of my Surface Book Pro 2 (or whatever that POS it‘s called), it’s way more convenient in that regard.
And not to forget, I hardly ever use it for more than 3h straight. So often it simply charges in between sessions.
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God, Linus says he can’t wait to put the vision Pro back in the box as he’s so over it.
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I’m 20 minutes into that video and Luke’s first impression seems to be extremely good. Interesting to find out what points LInus is going to bring up …
EDIT Oh wow, I indeed think I read somewhere that you need a US apple ID, but Linus says that you need a US credit card with US address to even buy apps? Damn that’s going to s*ck for sure. How did you solve that @twack3r ?
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I actually ended up watching the whole thing and it was just a waste of time. No real arguments other than that credit card thing
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So I use my main, German Apple ID for the AVP itself.
And then i set up a US AppleID which I use to log into ‘media and subscriptions’. That ID is attached to a virtual US cc via USunlocked.com which I have been using for many years for US purchases.
That will be my setup until the AVP releases in the EU, at which point I’ll switch everything to my main ID.
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not liking the AVP for whatever convoluted reason brings in good clicks from the Quest crowd 
I don’t think not liking the price is a convoluted reason. Every one would agree the price is excessive for what it is an iPhone 15 in a BSB lol.
It’s great for VR Apple made such a device because it shows what can be done but the fov is shocking the comfort sounds bad and the lack of controllers is a huge oversight.
Sure the mixed reality stuff looks fantastic but it’s still a gimmick and the Pico4/Quest3 has great pass through.
I got the feeling the AVP will be surpassed very quickly and priorities like FOV and comfort will always win the day.
At least Zucks has been poked with a big stick and I can’t wait to see what high end device comes next from Meta.
Yup, pricing is definitely not a convoluted reason and it excludes many that might otherwise have had an interest in the device.
Nobody would agree that it’s an iphone 15 in a BSB. It’s a fully fledged Macbook Pro with an M2 chip and 16GB RAM and a new R1 chip with the currently availble most advanced display tech.
How is the resolution shocking? It is only surpassed by the XR-4. The comfort is pretty damn amazing when using the single loop mod and even out of the gate, I most certainly have had less comfortable HMDs. Eye comfort, on the other hand, is stellar.
No controllers is exactly the right choice to push ET and HT as a navigation tool; there is no reason LED tracked controllers cannot be supported at some point but such is the cost of being an early Apple product adopter.
Neither the Pico4 nor the Quest3 has ‘great passthrough’. I’d call it just about ‘acceptable’. There currently is no device on earth with a better passthrough than the AVP, including the XR-4 (and its $10,000 focal edition) in its current state.
I see no player able to get even close to what Apple has delivered in the AVP as a UI, software and hardware package. They will try and that is good but I just don’t see the ability of tapping into a vast established ecosystem with any other player, except maybe for Google.
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My bad, I meant FOV. The resolution is very good for Micro-OLED. The only other HMD I can see as better is Sonys new Dev kit. Not knocking the AVP for displays or optics apart from the FOV.
I’m an iPhone user and totally agree. But I don’t think I’d want my LG TV or Sony Projector locked into the same eco system. I’d rather have a VR HMD free to use on my PC but I suppose this is why I compare AVP to a wearable phone than a VR device.
Well I think I’ve seen pretty much every reviewer say the same and that although it’s of course a huge chunk of money, it’s not expensive if you look at the tech they put inside. It’s by FAR the most advanced consumer headset in the market right now, which of course comes at a price.
You shouldn’t even knock it for the FOV tbh, unless you have tried it and noticed it negatively.
I am looking forward to what @Djonko says when he gives it a try; this HMD is so far outside the norms we have looked at in the last 10 years that the usual metrics do not, in my opinion, lead to meaninful comparison to another product.
And I fully agree that it’s in a whole different category than a PC-tethered HMD or even a Quest that can easily be tethered to a PC. It IS an Apple product after all and they are both good at worldclass UI and a rigidly closed ecosystem (the latter of which is already kinda being pried open with Moonlight and Sunshine, hopefully soon with Virtual Desktop etc)
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Haha, I already tried to book the demo, they only let you book a few days in advance though, so will need to do that just before I travel. I will be in Miami the last week of March, if I like it I’ll most likely end up buying it right away. I have a feeling I will anyway, even though I kinda always have hated Apple, I’m not vested in their ecosystem and I don’t like the way they’re closing everything. But I already know that if their optics/display are really good, I’ll most likely cave, LOL.
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The most limiting factor in actually getting an AVP right now in store appears to be facial shape variance and as a result ‘lightshield’ (facial interface) availability. Apple WILL NOT sell an AVP to you if the ‘lightshield’ that the FaceID scan determines for you isn’t available. Kind of mind boggling tbh…
So I’d recommend using a mate’s iPhone with FaceID, log into the US Apple Store on that device and start the AVP order dialog. That will determine the facial interface model and you can contact the store ahead of your visit making sure they have that model available.
I’d hate for you to like the device and not being able to buy it because of some Apple perfection doctrine.
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